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Frequently asked questions on selected topics.

FAQ general

I can't find my modules in CSMconfig. What can I do?

Please check the following points for CAN modules:

  • Terminate the measuring chain with a terminating resistor.
  • Activate the bitrate detection in the CSMconfig settings and try to find the modules via auto-configuration.
  • Connect the modules individually and import them with auto-configuration.
  • All modules on a CAN bus must use the same bit rate.
  • Check the total CAN bus load of the measurement chain to ensure that it does not exceed 100%. This can occur if modules are configured and plugged together individually. To correct this, read the modules individually and select a lower transmission rate.
  • Use an additional power supply in a long measuring chain.
  • Do not use pure CANopen modules (e.g. NH3CAN). These are not supported by CSMconfig and therefore not found.

For ECAT modules, please check the following points:

  • Do not use an external (USB-to-)Ethernet adapter when working with high sampling rates (>500kHz).
  • Check whether you have exceeded the maximum number of modules or channels for the measurement chain. These depend on the ECAT operating mode and are displayed in the XCPG dialog.
  • Before starting the measurement, wait until the status LED shows green for all modules.
  • Use an additional power supply in a long measuring chain.
  • Before editing the measurement chain, switch the gateway to CSMconfig offline and only then reconnect the modules. Then switch the gateway back online.
  • Use a switch for measurements with more than one gateway. The simultaneous use of two network cards for measurement and configuration can lead to communication problems.

What is the maximum number of high-speed ECAT modules that can be connected to an XCP gateway?

Note: To use high-speed measurement rates (sampling rates greater than 10 kHz) with CSM ECAT modules, the ECAT operating mode must be set to "10kHz or packed" in the XCP gateway.

The maximum possible number of modules depends significantly on the selected sampling rate.
The following table applies if all modules of the measurement chain are configured at the same rate:

Sampling Rate Max. Number of Modules Max. Number of Channels
10 kHz 25 × ECAT STGMM 6 150 channels
25 × AD4 ECAT MM 100 channels
100 kHz 11 × AD4 ECAT MM 44 channels
1000 kHz 1 × AD4 ECAT MM 4 channels

Mixed high speed measuring rates can only be used in combination with the XCP version 1.4 format. To do this, set the XCP compatibility accordingly in the CSMconfig program settings. The combination possibilities of modules with different sampling rates are almost unlimited. Therefore, the maximum number of modules for two combinations is listed in the following table as an example:

Max. Number of Modules Sampling Rate Max. Number of Channels

1 × AD4 ECAT MM
+ 1 × AD4 ECAT MM
+ 1 × AD4 ECAT MM

1000 kHz 4 channels
100 kHz 4 channels
10 kHz 4 channels
1 × AD4 ECAT MM
+ 11 × AD4 ECAT MM
1000 kHz 4 channels
10 kHz 44 channels

The CSMconfig configuration software provides feedback when configuring an ECAT measurement chain:
Overload configurations are easy to detect and prevent because a warning message appears if the permissible CAN bus load is exceeded.

Where can I download the INCA AddOn CAN/ETH?

The CSM INCA AddOns are licensed software. If you do not yet have a license, please contact your personal account manager or sales@csm.de.

If you already have a license and are only looking for the installation package, please contact your personal account manager or CSM Service and Support.

Which Modules support TEDS?

A complete list of CAN AD modules with TEDS functionality can be found here: Measurement modules with TEDS support

The STGMM 6 CAN and ECAT modules support TEDS (CSM-proprietary template).

What is the pinning of the signal sockets for CAN modules?

The pin assignment of the corresponding signal socket for the ECAT modules can be found in the two documents "ECAT STGMM6" and "ECAT ADMM4 HS", which are located under Help at CSMconfig.

PIN-Belegung der Standard CAN-Signalbuchsen:

Signal socket for PT CAN MM series
Connector Measuring input
Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 0B, 6pol
1 VIN + Input voltage, plus
2 VIN - Input voltage, minus
3 -- reserved, do not connect
4 VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 VOUT - Sensor supply output, minus
6 -- reserved, do not connect
Signal socket for CNT CAN MM series
Connector Measuring input Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 0B, 6pol
1 VIN + Input voltage, plus
2 VIN - Input voltage, minus
3 -- reserved, do not connect
4 VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 VGND Sensor supply ground
6 -- reserved, do not connect
Signal socket for AD CAN MM series
Connector Measuring input Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 0B, 6pol
1 VIN + Input voltage, plus
2 VIN - Input voltage, minus
3 -- reserved, do not connect
4 VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 VGND Sensor supply ground
6 VOUT - Sensor supply output, minus
Signal socket for STG CAN MM series
Connector Measuring input Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 1B, 8pol
1 VIN - Measured voltage (-)
2 VIN +
Measured voltage (+)
3 VOUT - Bridge excitation voltage, ground
4 VOUT + Bridge excitation voltage, plus
5 VSENSE - Sense minus
6 VSENSE + Sense plus
7 Channel Shield Shield for measurement signal
8 Data Data line (TEDS)

Housing

Cable Shield Outer Shield (housing)

What is the pinning of the signal sockets for ECAT modules?

The pin assignment of the corresponding signal socket for the ECAT modules can be found in the two documents "ECAT STGMM6" and "ECAT ADMM4 HS", which are located under Help at CSMconfig.

Standard PIN assignment of the ECAT signal socket:

Signal socket for AD4 ECAT MM series

Connector measuring input

Pin Signal
(unipolar sensor excitation )
Signal
(bipolar sensor excitation)
Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 1B, 8pol
1 VIN - VIN - Input voltage, minus
2 VIN +
VIN +
Input voltage, plus
3 VGND VGND Sensor supply ground
4 VOUT + VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 - VOUT - Sensor supply output, minus
6 - - reserved, do not connect
7 Channel Shield Channel Shield Shield for measurement signal
8 Data Data Data line (TEDS)
Housing Cable Shield Cable Shield Outer Shield (housing)
Signal socket for STG ECAT MM series
Connector measuring input Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 1B, 8pol
1 VIN - Input voltage, minus
2 VIN +
Input voltage, plus
3 VOUT - Bridge excitation voltage, ground
4 VOUT + Bridge excitation voltage, plus
5 VSENSE - Sense minus
6 VSENSE + Sense plus
7 Channel Shield Shield for measurement signal
8 Data Data line (TEDS)
Housing Cable Shield Outer Shield (housing)

Which interfaces are supported by the CSM INCA AddOn CAN?

The integration of the CAN interfaces into CSM INCA AddOn CAN is based on the BOA driver library of INCA.
This supports all CAN interfaces which are also supported by the BOA installation on your PC. Additionally, ETAS CAN interfaces can be used.

For a complete list of all supported CAN interfaces of your BOA driver library, please contact ETAS.

Which CAN interfaces are supported by CSMconfig?

A list of the interfaces which are supported by CSMconfig can be found in the help under the keyword "Supported CAN interfaces". To use the intefaces you have to install manufacturer's drivers first.
Depending on which driver library you have activated in the CSMconfig program settings, different interfaces can be used:

CSM Interface Library

The following interfaces are currently supported by CSMconfig:

  • CSM (CSMcan)
  • VECTOR (VNxxx, CANCard-X, CANCard-XL, ETAS CANLink, ...)
  • KVASER (LAPcan, USB-CAN II, ...)
  • dSPACE (DCI-CAN1, ...)
  • softing (CANCard2, ... )
  • PEAK (PCAN-USB with PCAN Light API)
  • National Instruments (NI PCMCIA-CAN Series 2 with NI_CAN driver package)
  • IXXAT (USB-to-CAN compact, ...)
  • Intrepid (ValueCAN 2, 3)

BOA (ETAS INCA 7.1)

If BOA is selected as the active interface library, CSMconfig supports all CAN interfaces that are also supported by the BOA installation on your PC. For a complete list of all supported CAN interfaces of your BOA driver library, please contact ETAS.

Which CAN interfaces are supported by CSMview?

Currently not all CAN interfaces available in CSMconfig are supported by CSMview. CAN interfaces from the following manufacturers are currently available for CSMview:

  • CSM 
  • vector
  • Kvaser

Note: BOA driver-based interfaces are not supported.

Where can I find the housing dimensions of the respective modules?

All module housing dimensions are listed on the CSM website.

  • On each site of the module (e.g. AD CAN-MM) there is a table with the available housing variants.
  • Click on the title line of the respective housing variant
  • An overlay opens which shows the dimensions of the selected enclosure type.

These are in detail: Case eXtra Small (CXS), Case Small (CS), Slide Case Small (SCS), Case Large (CL), Slide Case Large (SCL),

What is the single channel configuration?

Usually, the CAN-ID for CSM measurement modules is defined for a group of channels. Often valid for the entire module. This then occupies a consecutive range of CAN identifiers.
For some measurement modules, however, the CAN identifier and transmission rate can also be specified per channel. CAN identifiers can be defined channel by channel individually. However, the format (11/29 bit) must correspond to the CAN bus definition.

The option to define CAN identifier and transmission rate per channel is activated in the "Device Configuration" dialog or in the "Device List" view.

Restrictions for single channel configuration:

  • If the Configuration per channel option is activated, no info message can be sent.
  • The measuring module generates a higher bus load if the channels transmit in separate CAN messages.
  • The option to define CAN identifier and transmission rate per channel is not supported by all analyzer modules / firmware versions.
  • The ID NULL switches off the respective channel. No CAN message is sent.

My sensor has three connectors. How do I connect it to my ADMM?

The AD MM series measures the input voltage (=> output voltage of the sensor) using VIN + and VIN -. These PINs are isolated from the rest of the module and have no defined potential unless a sensor is connected.
Since sensors measure the output voltage relative to the sensor ground, VIN- must also be connected to the sensor ground.

Terminal assignment for AD CAN-MM
Connector measuring input Pin Signal Description
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 0B, 6pol
1 VIN + Input voltage, plus
2 VIN - Input voltage, minus
3 -- Reserved, do not connected
4 VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 VGND Sensor supply ground
6 VOUT - Sensor supply output, minus
Terminal assignment for AD ECAT-MM
Connector measuring input Pin Signal
(unipolar sensor excitation )
Signal
(bipolar sensor excitation)
Descritption
Sicht auf Modulfront LEMO 0B, 6pol
View of module front
LEMO 1B, 8pol
1 VIN - VIN - Input voltage, minus
2 VIN +
VIN +
Input voltage, plus
3 VGND VGND Sensor supply ground
4 VOUT + VOUT + Sensor supply output, plus
5 - VOUT - Sensor supply output, minus
6 - - Reserved, do not connected
7 Channel Shield Channel Shield Shield for measurement signal
8 Data Data Data line (TEDS)
Housing Cable Shield Cable Shield Outer Shield (housing)

FAQ ECM

Is it possible to change the baud rate of an ECM module (LambdaCANc,...) in CSMconfig?

The baud rate can only be changed with the ECM configuration tool. The ECM configuration tool can be downloaded under the following link http://www.ecm-co.com/download.asp?35010

In CSMconfig, the module can then be read in and parameterized as usual.

Adjust heating and sensor characteristic curve manually via CSMconfig

Heating and sensor characteristics can be adapted using the CSMconfig configuration software. Via the configuration panel it is possible to adapt the two characteristic curves accordingly. Further information can be found in the CSMconfig help under the keyword ECM heating characteristic.

Information on the characteristic curves can be taken from the data sheet of the probe.

Effect of condensation water on the exhaust system

If condensation hits the hot probe, the ceramic cracks and the probe is broken.

There are several ways to prevent this:

  • A protection tube on the probe (has every probe, LSU4.9 has quite different ones), which keeps off water droplets, but still allows gas changes.
  • Wait for dew point end, i.e. all water is out of the system. (This can take several minutes for a diesel engine; the probe is not heated until then (=unregulated exhaust gas)).
  • Assembly at a place where no/few water droplets are present.

Which interfaces are supported by the ECM Configuration Tool?

  • Kvaser
  • ETAS
  • Peak USB-to-CAN Adapter
  • VectorCAN

What has to be considered when updating the firmware of the ECM modules?

Please note the following when updating the firmware of the ECM modules:

  • Never interrupt the power supply during the update.
  • The firmware can only be updated for one ECM module at a time.
  • There must not be any further modules on the CAN bus (this also apllies to ECM modules).
  • The correct firmware for the module must be selected. The configuration tool does not check the plausibility of the correct firmware file.
  • No probe connected to the module
  • After the successful update, wait until the module has been restarted and is ready for operation (red LED flashes every 2 seconds; configuration tool will show error 0x14 intentionally - sensor missing).